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18 March 2008 @ 07:37 am
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Is selling my perm account against TOS anything? I originally got it because this is how I keep up with my friends, but my friends aren't using it anymore :( :( :( It seems that someone else could get more use out of a perm account than I would.
 
 
 
Johnwibbble on March 18th, 2008 01:40 pm (UTC)
Yes, it is. Try and sell it - and get caught, of course - and you'll get it suspended.
just another star in the skylittlestarletta on March 18th, 2008 02:36 pm (UTC)
how could he possibly get caught when he posts here in this open community?
Johnwibbble on March 18th, 2008 02:43 pm (UTC)
I hear that LJ has spies everywhere.
Jenniferjenny_zzz on March 18th, 2008 02:53 pm (UTC)
*ahem* She...

And I can't really tell if you're meaning to be sarcastic, sarcasm doesn't transmit itself well over text, but there's a reason I asked instead of saying "hey, I'm selling my account, who wants it?" I wasn't sure it was alright or not. Now that I know it's not, that option is off the table. Thanks.
(no subject) - littlestarletta on March 18th, 2008 02:55 pm (UTC) (Expand)
(no subject) - crackpig on March 18th, 2008 05:41 pm (UTC) (Expand)
(no subject) - jenny_zzz on March 19th, 2008 12:35 am (UTC) (Expand)
Philip Newtonpne on March 18th, 2008 01:40 pm (UTC)
I'd suggest opening up a ticket with the Abuse Prevention Team, since they're the ones who can tell you for sure.

My unofficial guess is that section X of the TOS is what applies, though, it's not OK to charge for an account.

(Not even sure whether giving away an account for free would be fine, though -- ask the APT to be sure.)
ZJRwinterknight on March 18th, 2008 01:47 pm (UTC)
The other problem is that unless you give away the email address associated with the account, the other person can never be guaranteed to have complete control over it. There's been problems in the past with this. It's not recommended to buy or take over another account.
Up Too Late: stairwaysthisdaydreamer on March 18th, 2008 09:01 pm (UTC)
But you can change what email account is associated with the journal. I had to change mine when hotmail decided that everything sent from LiveJournal was spam and blocked it.
Philip Newtonpne on March 18th, 2008 09:11 pm (UTC)
Yes, but LiveJournal remembers the previous email addresses associated with the account[*], and you can always have a password reset email sent to a previous address as well.

So if you give away your account, you'll always be able to get it back by having the password reset email sent to your previous address.

It's possible to delete addresses from that list of previous addresses, but only by switching back to an older address.

This is useful if someone steals your account and adds their own email address: you can have a password reset email sent to your address (which is on file as a previous address for that account), then change the email address back to the old one, then delete the intruder's email address from the account.

However, since you have to change to a previous address in order to delete a later one, this means you can never delete the first email address the account ever had, since there's no earlier address you could change to. So the very first address will always remain on file as a valid previous address.

[*] To be precise: LiveJournal remembers previous email addresses if they were validated (you clicked a link in an email sent there to confirm the address was yours). However, since accounts with unvalidated email addresses are rather limited (IIRC, they can't post comments, nor can they post entries in communities), most email addresses will be validated these days, I would assume.
(no subject) - c_eagle on March 19th, 2008 11:36 am (UTC) (Expand)
(no subject) - lied_ohne_worte on March 19th, 2008 12:53 pm (UTC) (Expand)
(no subject) - c_eagle on March 19th, 2008 10:23 pm (UTC) (Expand)
(no subject) - pne on March 19th, 2008 06:05 pm (UTC) (Expand)
(no subject) - c_eagle on March 19th, 2008 10:33 pm (UTC) (Expand)
ZJRwinterknight on March 18th, 2008 09:19 pm (UTC)
The first email account associated with the journal always maintains ultimate control over the journal. It's the way that they determine ownership of a journal. It's all recorded and requests emailed from the original address are always the final word.
(no subject) - zerocoolphreak on March 22nd, 2008 12:44 am (UTC) (Expand)
(no subject) - winterknight on March 22nd, 2008 12:45 am (UTC) (Expand)
(no subject) - winterknight on March 22nd, 2008 12:45 am (UTC) (Expand)
(no subject) - pne on March 22nd, 2008 07:01 am (UTC) (Expand)
Philip Newtonpne on March 18th, 2008 02:23 pm (UTC)
Good one.
Jenniferjenny_zzz on March 18th, 2008 02:54 pm (UTC)
Thank you.
吾畫遍行天下偽造居多bad on March 18th, 2008 01:53 pm (UTC)
no resale of service is allowed (LiveJournal TOS, X)

but you can gift your account to anyone you wish :)
Jenniferjenny_zzz on March 18th, 2008 02:55 pm (UTC)
Can I gift my perm status? I didn't see an option to... but I might have missed it.
(no subject) - pne on March 18th, 2008 03:13 pm (UTC) (Expand)
(no subject) - thisdaydreamer on March 18th, 2008 09:05 pm (UTC) (Expand)
(no subject) - pne on March 18th, 2008 09:12 pm (UTC) (Expand)
(no subject) - kengr on March 18th, 2008 11:49 pm (UTC) (Expand)
prince on March 18th, 2008 03:03 pm (UTC)
has someone actually offered to buy jenny_zzz? seems like it would be smart to just start a new account by altering the name a little... or maybe i'm missing something. oh wait. it's not jenny_zzz you're asking about :D