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22 June 2015 @ 10:51 am
Does Nudging do any good?  
Are our friends lost to other social media? Is there any way to draw them back? I have tried the "Nudge a Friend" but see no evidence that it worked. I tried the program the LJ offered six months ago where people were invited back with the lure of some member benefits. I saw no evidence that brought anyone back. (In fact, even LJ has been quiet about that program lately.)

So . . . What do we do? Any ideas?

(I do think the Nudge a friend needs some updating. I think the text isn't very effective and we need to be able to add a personal message but if it doesn't actually work then why bother.)
 
 
Senora Sassafrass: Lj + medsewcute on June 23rd, 2015 08:04 pm (UTC)
I think part of the issue is the crappy LJ app.
Pink Halenpink_halen on June 23rd, 2015 08:24 pm (UTC)
I don't use an LJ app. This is directly at the website.

If friends don't respond to direct invitations, What can we do to bring them back to LiveJournal?

rejectomorph: laszlo moholy-nagy_chxflying_blind on June 23rd, 2015 10:03 pm (UTC)
I think sewcute was saying that one reason people are reluctant to use LJ anymore is that the app available for LJ is inferior to the apps available for rival social media sites. A majority of people access the Internet by mobile phone now, and the share still using computers is declining rapidly.

A crappy mobile app could be a factor, but I still think the (probably irreversible) loss of the lead LJ once had in sheer mass of users is the main reason for the relentlessness of its decline. The fewer users we have, the less attractive the place becomes, and the less attractive it becomes the fewer users we have. A vicious cycle is terribly hard to break.
Senora Sassafrass: Housewifesewcute on June 24th, 2015 03:46 am (UTC)
That is what I meant.

I wish I knew how to get people back. . .I miss the community that I used to have on here with my friends, it's just not the same on Facebook (or any other site)
I was wrong, it's all my fault.rachel_nicole on July 26th, 2015 09:27 pm (UTC)
I miss this place terribly sometimes.. I used to spend HOURS on LJ, posting... reading friend's journals..
Senora Sassafrass: Lilassewcute on June 24th, 2015 03:45 am (UTC)
I meant the mobile app. I used to use it to post and comment, but I cannot use it for either, and commenting is difficult.
Ron Newmanron_newman on June 23rd, 2015 08:28 pm (UTC)
Which app? For Windows, Mac, or Linux?
We're flat broke, but hey - we do it in style....: TARDIS Callingkshandra on June 23rd, 2015 08:36 pm (UTC)
Or one of the mobile apps?

Edited at 2015-06-23 08:36 pm (UTC)
Senora Sassafrass: iPhone Lovesewcute on June 24th, 2015 03:47 am (UTC)
iphone app
Senora Sassafrasssewcute on June 24th, 2015 03:46 am (UTC)
mobile app for iphone.
Zoefruitcakezoefruitcake on June 24th, 2015 11:14 am (UTC)
I second the iPhone app being useless
God of Thunder and Rock'n'Roll: Spectrearchmage on June 23rd, 2015 09:11 pm (UTC)
I gave up on the client. Always seemed to have an issue. I just use the main site, anymore.
Senora Sassafrass: Paris Purplesewcute on June 24th, 2015 03:47 am (UTC)
I've not had an issue with the mac or PC apps.
God of Thunder and Rock'n'Roll: Eye Heart The Residentsarchmage on June 23rd, 2015 09:12 pm (UTC)
Hell, i took an extended hiatus and only recently returned. I just missed the old place. Not sure how to entice others back, though, hard to do when they are entrenched elsewhere with the majority of people.
rejectomorph: laszlo moholy-nagy_chxflying_blind on June 23rd, 2015 09:41 pm (UTC)
There seems to be a lot of inertia in social media, and a critical mass of users is important. Once people are embedded in a site they become reluctant to leave, as long as that site stays abreast of the times. It would have been easier to have kept the mass of users LJ once had than it would be to get them back now that it's so empty. The decline began when the site was owned by 6 Apart. Wicked Stepmother never really loved us, and didn't do enough to keep us here, so a lot of us left, and then she sold the rest of us to the Russians.

The Russian side of LJ is still thriving, because it still has that critical mass of users. English LJ no longer has such a mass, and I really don't see any way to bring it back. I just hope that our Russian Overlords manage to keep Russian LJ going strong, because if it goes into decline then we are apt to be orphaned. At this point I think we English users are just hitching a ride on the bear's back, and if the bear dies then English LJ will probably die with it. I hate the idea of being stuck with Tumblr and Twitter, let alone (shudder) Facedbook.
Senora Sassafrass: Missy + Bikesewcute on June 24th, 2015 03:49 am (UTC)
I think a lot of it has to do with the "higher" ups. I tried dreamwidth, but it just didn't have the community that LJ had.
Liliaethliliaeth on June 24th, 2015 03:02 am (UTC)
The annoying part for me is, that even though lj is by far superior to the likes of Tumblr, most of new fandom is moving over to tumblr, so if you want to keep up with new fandoms, you have no choice but to join them there.

I just wish I could get people to come back here, because Tumblr sucks for decent discussions.
Mandelbearmdlbear on June 24th, 2015 03:53 am (UTC)
I automatically cross-post from Dreamwidth, which is where many of my LJ friends have gone. There are still enough people who only post -- and comment -- on LJ to keep it on my reading list. I also use it as a feed aggregator.
...evilkyttn...: AbFabevilkyttn on June 24th, 2015 05:06 am (UTC)
I've seen my habits change to where I now use LJ as more of a journal-journal (aka: a sorta of digital "My Diary"). I've got a lot of private entries where I'm venting about things my real-life friends don't want to hear me go on-and-on about. I also use it to keep track of how much I've spent on my credit cards and when the 0% financing offers end so I don't get stung with interest fees - lol. I should mention that I do post in some communities that are still somewhat active, and of course I'm always reading up on ONTD posts.

I've always thought that LJ has so much more to offer compared to FB when it comes to making "real" posts. I mean, you've got custom user icons, animated gifs, you can do a lj-cut if something is a bit too long and you can really control who sees what in a way that's sooooo much more easy compared to FB. Seriously - it seems like when I want to change the privacy settings on a FB post, I almost HAVE to access the full site in order to get to the options I need. Oh, and don't get me started on the FB news feed - I've missed so many friends posts that I would have loved to comment on if I had seen the thing in the first place.

As for how to get people to return - that's a tough question. What if LJ was promoted as a sort of digital "my diary"? But then again, some people on those other sites are so obsessed with getting hundreds of likes and comments on a post - you don't get that when LJ entries are private. :-/

Edited at 2015-06-24 05:08 am (UTC)
mopaliamopalia on June 25th, 2015 01:56 pm (UTC)
I don't think that anything will bring people back. Maybe a better idea is to think about how to expand our circles with people who are still here. I met many of my LJ friends through communities; looking for specific things on targeted communities brought up posts from people who seemed interesting, and then I would check out their journals. I've since met many IRL and my very small friends list now is down to 3 or 4 people who are still active - two of whom actually post on Dreamwidth. But with the majority of the communities now moribund, this isn't a viable way to meet people.
This post got more responses than anything I've sen in a long time. But there's no way to get LJ to invest in permanent users - there's no financial incentive. It seems to me that the only way to expand your circle is to look for new people, since I doubt that anyone will come back. In my mind, the question becomes, how can I find active communities with interesting people? At least, that's what it would be if I really wanted to increase my friends list.
heliopausaheliopausa on June 27th, 2015 12:28 pm (UTC)
I wasn't around for the glory days. :) But I like LJ, and I'm continuing here, despite my friends-list getting less and less active. I've tried trawling through friends-of-friends and comments for new people whose journals look interesting; sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't.
Two things can be disappointing - reading a comment from someone,and thinking 'oh, they sound really interesting!', only to find that their LJ is completely locked down.
Or if I do friend someone, (this happens more on DW, though) and they seem to enjoy my comments on their posts, but they don't engage in conversation or reply to my posts.
My other car is a robot!tckma on June 26th, 2015 10:21 am (UTC)
I've tried to bring people back. I've tried to bring myself back. Now that I'm much older, I find I don't have as much time for LJ as I used to. I can leave for a week or two and not miss much on my friends list. Back in the day, I read it before and after work every day and there was still too much content to keep up with.

Everyone has absconded to Facebook, and I'm not sure how to get them back. I don't really like Facebook, and I'm only there because everyone else is.

The shittiness of the LJ app prevents me from writing much, as I rarely check from a computer anymore (LJ and FB are both blocked by my employer, and I am often exhausted by the time I get home.)
Laurakyrielle on June 27th, 2015 03:09 pm (UTC)
Sending me nudges/pokes/whatevers from social media sites I've left doesn't usually bring me back. It usually irritates me and causes me to hunt for a way to block that email. I consider those "harrassment" features, not ways to invite friends back.

You want them back? Send them a nicely-written personalized letter via the LJ messaging service.

And if their email has changed, it still might not work, but it's still better than the nudge. When I saw the nudge feature released, I think I almost sprained my eyes rolling them. LJ seems to be working hard to incorporate the worst features of every other social media they can find, and making itself less pleasant and welcoming to me on a regular basis. YMMV.
Velvet Froggvelvetfrogg on October 4th, 2015 12:01 am (UTC)
And several months later I'm replying....
I have 3 LJs that I use for different things and two are basic accounts and sometimes when I'm posting often on them I'll sign up for a paid account. This account that I still use is a permanent account. At the time that they did the promotion of giving free time if someone came back, I hadn't logged into those other accounts for over 12 months. I would have loved to have done a permanent account for at least one of those accounts as a way of using it more. I think that could be a better incentive to get some users to come back.