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20 June 2006 @ 08:08 pm
[mod] Duplicate Posts  
Please glance through existing entries to make sure a subject has not already been posted about. That is, let's try not to duplicate posts. Particularly if they're recently posted entries and there's not a significant change that would justify re-posting when a current conversation on the topic is already at hand.

And when the subject matter relates to permanent members in a fuzzy manner. Also, I recently made a mod post on using this community for protests. The recent posts linking to petitions...that's not an outright protest, but more in a gray area.

I don't mind discussion of issues that directly effect permanent accounts. For matters that effect permies only because they effect LiveJournal as a whole...I think I'd prefer people posted with a more balanced approach. While I'm not yet intending to mandate this, if you're going to post something along the lines of these recent petitions, please try to cover both sides of the issue at hand. The intent of this request is to cut down on misinformation that tends to happen when only one side is really presented.

But mostly, this post is about the first paragraph.

Lastly, we've already shot over 300 members since the prior mod post I made. :-) Please remember -- and I hate to sound like a broken record -- there's a post for introducing yourself (see the info page), so no need to make a separate introductory post to that effect. This community's emphasis is issues, not individuals. ;-)
andy: buckytwinkiefervid_dryfire on June 21st, 2006 06:35 am (UTC)
The mob is fickle.
I've never seen any community successfully commit to a "don't repost old stuff" rule in full.

For that matter, I've never seen that every single new member to a community is going to a) read all the rules before posting, and b) actually OBEY those rules.

Sure, it's annoying at times; but this community belongs to its members- the ones who make a community- not just the moderator.
.kellzilla on June 21st, 2006 07:07 am (UTC)
Re: The mob is fickle.
However, keep in mind that this is a VERY select number of people who put either a lot of money or a lot of time into their accounts. These are not your typical LJers. This is not a random discussion forum. Don't underestimate them/us.
andy: buckytonguefervid_dryfire on June 21st, 2006 07:31 am (UTC)
Re: The mob is fickle.
Are you trying to me that people who spend a lot of time and/or money on LJ are part of some sort of rare phenomenon? That's a major exaggeration. =P

These are not your typical LJers.

The simple fact that this post exists at all proves otherwise.
.kellzilla on June 21st, 2006 07:52 am (UTC)
Re: The mob is fickle.
There have been, I think, *TWO* reposts. At least, that I've seen. (The second one, the post before this, was admitted as a mistake: the poster had skipped the first post about it.)

This post is to forestall any further.
Yáng Yuǎn Zhìadudeabides on June 21st, 2006 01:07 pm (UTC)
Re: The mob is fickle.
Schneelockeschnee on June 21st, 2006 09:58 am (UTC)
Re: The mob is fickle.
Shelling out a lot of money for a permanent account does not make anyone more intelligent/reasonable/... than anyone else. :)
.kellzilla on June 21st, 2006 04:13 pm (UTC)
Re: The mob is fickle.
I never said such. But I am very safe to maintain that this is not your average group of users.
Schneelockeschnee on June 21st, 2006 04:26 pm (UTC)
Re: The mob is fickle.
Probably not, but we're not that special, either.
Yáng Yuǎn Zhìadudeabides on June 21st, 2006 11:16 am (UTC)
Re: The mob is fickle.
I don't expect people to commit to the "rule" in full. That's why it's worded along the lines of a guideline. I don't expect new members to search back for every "rule" and "obey" them, but I do expect people to be able to read back a few posts to make sure the post they're making wasn't posted only a day or so ago. As communities go, this is small, and will never likely number in the thousands...it should be easy enough for members to self-police.
Schneelockeschnee on June 21st, 2006 09:58 am (UTC)
300? Wow, cool. :)
Nikki: NH Flowers 2 (Pinks)nakeisha on June 21st, 2006 11:39 am (UTC)
I was merely following up on posts that started on this Community.

As for a more balanced approach. I posted information, in my post I didn't really offer any opinion at all. I said 'It seems to have generated an awful lot of bad feeling', which is true, is does 'seem' to have done just that!

The link I posted offered people the chance to leave comments - both good and bad.

The poll had a 'like it' or 'don't like it' option, both balanced.

The petition, well balanced insofar as if you didn't want to sign it you didn't have to. Had there been a petition supporting it, I'd have posted that too.

Had I not been attempting to be balanced I wouldn't have given the link to the post where people could praise it as well as say how awful it was (if that was what was felt), nor would I have posted the link to the poll. And I would have given my outright opinions in the post.

I don't think I or anyone else was using this Comm as a protest; I was merely, as I said, following up on two posts one here in April, one a week or so again, that gave us information on the whole subject. It was an information post, not a protest post. And both sides were covered, that is what the links were for.
Yáng Yuǎn Zhìadudeabides on June 21st, 2006 01:06 pm (UTC)
I wasn't really referencing your post. (not to point fingers at others) And as I said, the petition wasn't a protest...that was a reference to another issue. There have been duplicate posts, but what I was attempting to do was curb something before it started. If we maintain a good balance and don't go to one extreme on an issue -- particulalry if the issue overwhelms other issues that might be posted in the community -- then (a) users will still feel welcome to post their opinions or topics, and (b) the community doesn't lose any credibility it may have (or may potentially have in the future). My post might not have been the best worded, but time is pretty short.
...: Clouds&Heartscookiegirlie on June 21st, 2006 03:09 pm (UTC)
Thank you.
qfemaleqfemale on June 23rd, 2006 10:34 am (UTC)
Hey I have a question for you.
Would it be okay if I pitched scrapbook_users here? It's pretty new as you can see and needs members. I'm still fidling around with it right now and will post a first entry.