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20 June 2006 @ 04:21 pm
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Hello, I'm Shay, I've had a perm account since last year, nice to meet other folks with chemically treated hair similar accounts.

Probably many of you know, but there's a huge discussion about LJ becoming more like MySpace and trying to appeal to a 'younger' crowd.

You can read about it, and a petition, two entries down.

Now, this affects perm members because of loss of service, yes, but I'm also wondering- will they allow transfers between LJ and Vox with a transfer token? Hmmm...
 
 
 
kahlan_amnellkahlan_amnell on June 20th, 2006 08:39 pm (UTC)
How could they want to go younger? The age groups with the most users are teenagers, if they look at the statistics. They already have them, they don't need to change what they are doing to get them.
Baby, I'm gonna do you till you can juggle.: Beads 1shaysdays on June 20th, 2006 08:44 pm (UTC)
Well- somewhere in that thread are the follwing points:

Older members are a little loath to reveal their age
Many 'members' are roleplaying accounts (How many 'Hermiones' are on Livejournal, do you think?)
If someone puts in an age that is impossible, like 1700, it would throw the whole system out of whack and skew it younger.
The Greatest Fucking Genius of All Timepatrick on June 20th, 2006 08:44 pm (UTC)
Throughout livejournal's everchanging past, they've always enabled people to be able maintain the look and feel of earlier versions of the website. Any changes in look and feel and be reverted without much effort.

As long as they maintain the policy on not allowing embedded video and audio in journal posts, I will not care too much how the look and feel of the site changes. The fact of the matter is, regardless of who we are as a community of perm account users, the majority of the users on this site are between 16 and 21.

Are ads a bad thing? Sure, but I don't have to look at them either. Is the box style of design ugly? Sure, it can be. If it ends up working like how they've designed the portal stuff, though, it's going to be customizable just like everything else they do.
Fortune depends on the tone of your voicebopeepsheep on June 20th, 2006 08:48 pm (UTC)
No, the majority of members who enter a birth date are between 16 and 21. Not at all the same thing. There's a meme going around LJ Support team members at the moment to get people to enter their actual dates of birth (even if they then keep them private). By far the majority of accounts have no date listed at all.
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The Water Seeker: kidletplymouth on June 21st, 2006 01:21 am (UTC)
So if you actually look at the raw data those stats come from here...
http://www.livejournal.com/stats/stats.txt
...you learn that LJ has over a million users who list their age as 5 (possibly this includes users who list it as less than 5 but their program truncates at 5 and rounds them all up). Somehow I am betting that does not reflect reality. Also, there are over 11,000 users who list their age as 100 or greater. Also probably not a reflection of reality. Yeah, the info on the stats page is just a chunk. So a total of nearly 6 million people ARE listing an age, but only 4 million of those fall in the 13-55 range displayed on the stats page.

So what we have learned is that a lot of people just plain lie. Or are making accounts for fictional characters, pets, cars, and other such things that have ages different from their own.

(and of course to post this comment I HAD to use my userpic in which I actually AM 5 :) )
prince on June 20th, 2006 09:04 pm (UTC)
Baby, I'm gonna do you till you can juggle.shaysdays on June 20th, 2006 09:07 pm (UTC)
Oh dear, I missed that entirely. Must have scrolled right past it when I was reading the comm.

Well, thank you... but really my main question no one seems to have answered, which is whether or not the transfer tokens will be offered for Vox if the LJ system changes drastically.
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Usekhusekh on June 20th, 2006 09:05 pm (UTC)
Looks like the typical storm in a teacup people going insane about every little change.

The Greatest Fucking Genius of All Timepatrick on June 20th, 2006 09:15 pm (UTC)
That's what I'm saying.
Marcus L. Rowlandffutures on June 20th, 2006 09:17 pm (UTC)
Call me cynical if you like, but I have to wonder if anyone actually bothered to proof-read that petition, or ask a couple of simple questions. Like, for example, why do they need the email addresses? If people are posting from their accounts that's surely sufficient proof of ID. Or am I missing something?

If I was a spammer and wanted an easy way to harvest 5000+ email addresses that'd be a pretty good thread to visit.

kauricatkauricat on June 20th, 2006 09:23 pm (UTC)
That thought occurred to me as well.
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yndyyndy on June 20th, 2006 11:09 pm (UTC)
They don't make money off of giving you a "transfer token" so I'd suspect that it's unlikely at best.

The thing is? if I had to give up my LJ - and the friends already on it (because I doubt most of them would transfer) then I wouldn't use a 'transfer token' anyways.

SixApart may try to make this a "teen site" - but then, there's no age restriction about joining - so they will undoubtedly fail.
Just as there are hundreds of thousands of "adults" on MySpace which constantly gets touted as a "teen site" - it's not up to them.
Guesslauren on June 20th, 2006 11:49 pm (UTC)
I'm really confused about this whole thing. Where the hell are people getting the idea that LJ is trying to turn into MySpace? What is their evidence to support this theory?

And as far as VOX goes, I have no clue if they would give "transfer tokens" or not. I currently have a VOX blog (?) & I'm not really liking it too much simply because it's compatibility with Mac OS X is dismal. Plus, it has ads on the blog pages & that bugs the hell out of me.

If they did give "transfer tokens", it wouldn't really be a transfer so much as an invite. Currently, you can't import data from other journals within LJ, so I doubt you would be able to do it between a LiveJournal & a VOX blog.
Nuggieccnuggie on June 21st, 2006 03:57 am (UTC)
They can go to hell if they think they're making me move to another site.
Sonic Alphasonicalpha on June 21st, 2006 05:07 am (UTC)
We shouldn't need to move *sighs*