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12 July 2006 @ 10:40 am
That navigation bar  
I'm sure most of you have noticed the grey/white navigation bar at the top of LJs. I personally find it extremely intrusive and disabled it when it first came out. However, there is an option that one can check (and that is set as LJ's default) where you can basically force the navigation bar on other people, even if they are signed in and have checked the option to remove the nav bar from viewing.

What do you think of the second option that allows the user to force others to see that nav bar? Most of the people who do it mostly leave it because it's the LJ default and/or they don't find it intrusive. I would really like that second option to be removed, because it really irritates me. That, or a third option that states: "Never show the navigation strip when you view any journal or community." I know it's a small thing, but that navbar distracts me, and it's starting to piss me off.

To change your navbar settings, go to: http://www.livejournal.com/manage/settings/
Douglas Spencerdougs on July 12th, 2006 05:44 pm (UTC)
When I asked about it in support, I was told to go to suggestions. I've sent the idea to suggestions, so we'll see if it turns up there. It's a different suggestion to the one that's referred to in this post.

There's a discussion about it here.
yueniyueni on July 12th, 2006 05:56 pm (UTC)
Ah, thank you. I probably should have headed over there instead of posting in here, as that seems to be the more appropriate forum.
qfemaleqfemale on July 12th, 2006 05:45 pm (UTC)
What has that to do with permanent accounts?
ファビュラス マックス: .59jai_dit on July 12th, 2006 08:10 pm (UTC)
Thank you. My exact thought.
(no subject) - nakeisha on July 12th, 2006 08:43 pm (UTC) (Expand)
your friendly neighborhood supercarrot: radioactivecakesupercarrot on July 12th, 2006 05:56 pm (UTC)
yeah, it's a personal preference. only the viewer who likes the strips should have to view it. it's really annoying the way they keep popping them up. i think i've had to disable mine 3 times already.

as a side note, does anyone know of a quick and easy way to remove the nav strip from the communities we manage?
...: The Madnesscookiegirlie on July 12th, 2006 06:05 pm (UTC)
Go to that manage page and change the account name using the drop-down thingy. Then uncheck the boxes. I did that last night to I don't know how many comms. o.0

I think that's why I hate it so much. It should have been an opt-in rather being forced on all of us. I'm starting to hate 6A.
(no subject) - supercarrot on July 12th, 2006 06:14 pm (UTC) (Expand)
(no subject) - cookiegirlie on July 12th, 2006 06:23 pm (UTC) (Expand)
(no subject) - supercarrot on July 12th, 2006 06:06 pm (UTC) (Expand)
Josephine: Hippolovellama on July 12th, 2006 05:58 pm (UTC)
I like it alot. I don't care for the positions of the text, but I hated reading/posting to someones Journal and having to go to their User Info page, hitting the backspace, or some other convoluted way just to get back to my Friends Page.

And if there was an easier way to get back to my Friends Page I don't want to know about it now, I'd feel like an idiot. :D
yueniyueni on July 12th, 2006 06:02 pm (UTC)
*g* Well, I completely understand different viewing preferences, and I'm all for the navigation bar for the people who do use it. Like you, for instance. However, I really would appreciate a way to check the "no, please do not ever show that thing to me ever, especially when I'm signed in" box, and then have it work.

See, when I'm posting comments in other people's LJ from my flist, I open the page in a new tab, and then close it post comment posting, so I don't have to figure out the backspace etc stuff.
(no subject) - lovellama on July 12th, 2006 06:08 pm (UTC) (Expand)
(no subject) - yueni on July 12th, 2006 06:10 pm (UTC) (Expand)
(no subject) - glowing_dragon on July 12th, 2006 06:14 pm (UTC) (Expand)
(no subject) - supercarrot on July 12th, 2006 06:16 pm (UTC) (Expand)
yueniyueni on July 12th, 2006 06:03 pm (UTC)
Thank you for the link. dougs pointed me in that direction when I posted this.
(no subject) - eideteker on July 12th, 2006 06:13 pm (UTC) (Expand)
(no subject) - dougs on July 12th, 2006 06:13 pm (UTC) (Expand)
(no subject) - eideteker on July 12th, 2006 06:15 pm (UTC) (Expand)
Josephine: Biscottilovellama on July 12th, 2006 06:00 pm (UTC)
I should have also said that although I like it, I agree that it shouldn't be the default to force it. that's rude.
Blackbird Songblackbird_song on July 12th, 2006 06:15 pm (UTC)
I really think it's ludicrous to allow individuals to force the navbar on other users. There absolutely needs to be a way for permanent and paid members, at least, to opt out of being forced to see it. I've been quite vocal about the tendency lately of the PTB at LJ/SA to force these silly sorts of things on us, whether we like it or not. It serves no real purpose, other than to annoy those who don't want it. It's wonderful to have the ability to implement things like the navigation strip, but let us choose to use it if we wish.

Sonic Alpha: All Seeing Eyesonicalpha on July 12th, 2006 06:34 pm (UTC)
I had a weird error last night where it turned all my navigation bars back on (journals and communities), I wasn't best pleased -_-
Douglas Spencerdougs on July 12th, 2006 07:10 pm (UTC)
Not an error -- rather, the result of incompetence by LJ. As jennifer writes:
    Previously, the navigation strip was still being developed, and users were given a chance to opt into displaying it. Unfortunately, information on users who tried the navigation strip and decided they didn't like it wasn't stored, due to an error in recording user preferences. Because LiveJournal staff is now comfortable that the navigation strip is ready for production release, they turned it on for all accounts except for the ones that had actively dismissed the "Did you know" box about the navigation strip.
Tove :)twissie on July 12th, 2006 06:38 pm (UTC)
Yeah, I always found those two settings very contradicting. O_O If you set the thing to not show up, you expect to not having to see it, but then you have to see it anyway when people force it on others. Incredibly annoying, I'm like you. I find the navbar useless and ugly :/

So agreeing on either having the second option removed or a third option available. Yes.
mopalia on July 12th, 2006 06:49 pm (UTC)
I notices the same thing this morning, and it sucks. I don't like this bar at all. Actually, I think it could be useful, but I find the design and layout ugly and annoying.
Cordykitten: awmp thinkingcordykitten on July 12th, 2006 06:59 pm (UTC)

I never like to be forced to do something. I would like to have an option to never see it. :)
Amandabyfaith on July 12th, 2006 08:33 pm (UTC)
Just look at other people's journal/other communities through your friends page. Or ignore it. It's really not that big of a deal, to me anyway.
Nikki: NH Bluebell Woodnakeisha on July 12th, 2006 08:41 pm (UTC)
I think it is completely wrong to be forced on people who don't want it.

After all we can choose whether to view our Comments from our Friends' Page in our own style (should we wish to - I don't but...) therefore we should have the option of turning this damned strip off for *us*. It's irrelevant as to whether the LJ owner wants it, they shouldn't be able to force it on those of us who don't want it. They should be able to have it on every page they view, but for them. They should not have the right to inflict it on anyone else.

Personally it really irks me when I go to one of my friends' pages or a Comm and it's there.
Edge of Reason...With a Twist of Rhyme...uawildcatgrl on July 12th, 2006 09:07 pm (UTC)
Funny thing...I don't mind it much when viewing someone elses journal, but I hated when they basically forced it on my journal last night (I went in and rechanged the options this morning) it just didn't go and muffed up my layout.

But yeah, thanks for the tip!
God of Thunder and Rock'n'Roll: Wiredarchmage on July 12th, 2006 09:42 pm (UTC)
I can see the use in the nav bar, and it can be handy. But to force it on others, that's just dumb.